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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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from Australia for science and reason

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yes it's the skeptic zone podcast

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episode number 564 the 14th of july 2019

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richardsaunders here with you from windy

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overcast cold Sydney Australia

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Oh jetlag is a wonderful thing when you

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come back to Australia because you get

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up nice and early to do lots of work on

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the podcast coming up on this week's

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show

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it's a Maynard special it's really I'm

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giving the whole show over to Maynard

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this week Thank You Mae none for

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stepping in and doing lots of work while

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I was away may not kicks off the show

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this week with an interview with Jenny

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Cheeseman from the cashew la power house

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Maynard I are no strangers to the khushu

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love power house and many other skeptics

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as well we go there every year for the

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paranormal and spiritual Expo who this

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time

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however I'm pleased to say more or less

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the power house has been given over to

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real science they have an exhibition

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called giant leap or revolving around

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the 50th anniversary of the moon

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landings moon memorabilia moon memories

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and some ancient myths thrown in along

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the way sort of cultural references to

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the moon sounds like a fascinating

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exhibition

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I hope may not and I can get out there

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and see it for ourselves nevertheless

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this interview with Jenny Cheeseman

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should have whet your appetite following

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that may not heads to skeptics in the

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pub and he asks the big question a big

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question of pub goers why do people take

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advice from celebrities / scientists

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from what I understand it was a pact

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skeptics in the pub because the guest

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speaker was none other than dr. Kyle

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Cruz Ole Miss key and after Maynard runs

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around with his microphone talking to

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pub goers may not interviews dr. Karl

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and I think you'll agree it is a

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wide-ranging interview many topics

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covered following that a short excerpt

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Carles talk where he takes a question

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from none other than trish Han our

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reporter vice-president of Australian

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skeptics now reported here on the

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sceptic zone with her segment Trish and

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chips then to round off that whole

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segment we have Iran Segev giving us an

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update on the Britt Hermes case Britt

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Hermes you will remember was a former

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naturopath who well saw the light I

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suppose you'd say and was sued for her

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opinions what's the latest on Britt's

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legal case find out later on with rants

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again and right at the end of the show

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find out how you can help secure the

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future of a fossilized opalized dinosaur

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the show a brief moment from me to talk

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about my memories of the moon landing I

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was very young at the time let me see I

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something like that very young and my

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vague vague vague memories are of

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broadcast or if I'm remembering watching

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the home movies my dad took pointing the

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we live in when years and years and

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years and decades later the moon

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that the moon landings were faked I know

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with thousands of young people

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world is flat and that we've been lied

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to all these years and NASA is full of

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lies and producing fake videos of they

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around Earth I guess it's up to all of

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crazy and false beliefs now you might

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door yes you're not going to come into

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the studio I've opened the yeah I hope

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the door you gonna come in any water why

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is it the cat's meow and meow and when

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you open the door they sort of look at

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you saying yes what do you want hello

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you've come in come on haven't seen you

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for a long time you're going to say

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something to the skeptic zone listeners

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um probably not all right off you go

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I'll feed you your breakfast soon that's

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what I should do folks well I run

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downstairs to feed those catch their

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breakfast I hope you enjoy the skipper

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ladies gentlemen listeners to the

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skeptic zone sure it was a great thing

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to put three guys on the moon repeatedly

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and bring them safely back to earth but

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they never put a whole museum on the

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moon particularly full of children with

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wearing Kellogg's packets on their heads

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and things like that that's going to be

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happening and a lot lot lot more at the

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Casula powerhouse all this month effect

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it's happening right now I have the code

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curator of giant sleep ginny Cheeseman

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on the phone hello Jenny hello how are

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you must be pretty excited there because

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it's very rarely that the entire Casilla

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power house gets given over to just one

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thing that's right yes it doesn't happen

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very often but every use every space is

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being utilized so that people can enjoy

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occasion of the first humans on the moon

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everybody agreed with something big the

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Americans did that's right yes I guess

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right they would they would they were

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dissenting voices but imagine if Trump

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any memorabilia or what their memories

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kindergarten and made to watch it on a

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long way away from it as well yeah I was

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witnessing the moon landings so which is

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a bit of fun you know so yeah what do

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artwork that people have contributed so

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our feeder foil we're taking that over

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for to present some works that Liverpool

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wow traveling to the moon so that's

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moon so they've all got different themes

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time because it sounds like there's a

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lot you've got to get through there you

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hour could you use a lot to look at no I

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MacArthur Astronomical Society of

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night but yeah I would allocate a good

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amount of time and we also have the

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Billboard Cafe so you know you can go

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and have something to eat and then keep

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going if you like yeah looking if it's

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not too cold you can sit outside there

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that's beautiful out there next to the

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Georges River we've got really nice

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you are in a fantastic location and

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that you feel the powerhouse are still

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there we're still saying yes and look

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you've got Jamie Leonardo doing a moon

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disc there's a moon disco going on and

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going to make stuff out of recycled

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items and I want to know the best way to

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make a recycled spaceship look yeah look

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programs team and that sort of thing so

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school holiday so you know we're

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inviting kids to come along between four

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and six to make some sort of space bling

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to wear to the disco that goes from 6 to

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7:30 which they'll make a whole bunch of

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aliens - yeah look I'm sure there'll be

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lots of alfoil that's what I'm guessing

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I think so I've been trying to figure

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out the helmet thing the whole fish ball

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thing doesn't really work anymore at Fox

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yeah yeah oh my go with the old

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Kellogg's cornflakes packet with the

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flat cap Oh head over to the front yeah

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like that idea - we're in one of the

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spaces we've got some of the artists are

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responding to the idea of being an

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astronaut so yeah lots of emotions they

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come up with one of them has come up

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with you know what it would be like if

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your family flew to the moon so he's

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made space couches where each seat is

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actually molded to the astronauts body

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so they're molded to his family's bodies

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and and that's Adam Norton so he's

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created those space couches I think Adam

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noted as done double duty there it's

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actually made a Christmas present for

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his family and an installation at the

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same time

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right yes it's a bit of fun I think yes

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and and that's so free to get into is it

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or no this is it yes it is yeah so

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there's a couple of events that are paid

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events one of those is really exciting

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it's a Jeff stuff doing his David Bowie

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unzipped performance I've seen that and

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Jeff stuff in the setting there which be

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would might be a little bit more

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intimate than usual for Jeff tough

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performance I would highly recommend a

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great environment to see Jeff and you

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know Space Oddity was you know part of

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the the moon landing experience so it

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was one of the things that was broadcast

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just released only I think a week before

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the actual moon landing so helped him

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rise to fame I think sort of being

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linked to the moon landing oh yes and

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one of the few recordings that actually

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uses a style of phone in it alright that

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that sort of buzzing noise in the

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background is it actually a keyboard

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that's a style of phone with one held

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note amazing yes a very strange thing

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even in this day actually you're

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obviously too young to remember the moon

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landings but what do you think of them

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retrospectively I think it's really

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fascinating I think a deep sort of peak

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people's curiosity and vision for the

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future as well they start until imagine

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things beyond Earth and that where you

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actually captured that in one of our

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exhibitions as well as called future so

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we've got a whole bunch of ex artists

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who looking at you know that sixties

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aesthetic that influence like posters

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and you know imagine space travel and

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things like that and imagining what the

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world might look like in 50 years time

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yes I remember all the books I had that

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I've kept from that time everybody

344
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thought there'd be a regular moon base

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and we would be well and truly on their

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way to Mars by now I guess they just

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didn't look at how much it costs that's

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right

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yeah I thought it would be one of those

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you know tours that you just go and look

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at your travel agent to go to the moon

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so well you can go to the moon of the

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Casula powerhouse for all of July

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journey thank you for chatting to us

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about this and enjoy the moon

356
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disco enjoy everything you've got going

357
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on and it's going on right now isn't it

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so don't miss out people that's right so

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it's open now but it launches get that

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made launches on I like

361
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I like it you work in the same Jenny

362
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like we are we launched on the 20th of

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July from 3 p.m. to 9 p.m. and how long

364
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has it run until is just all this month

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are you going into August we we go into

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September even so it runs a whole the

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7th of September Jenny a giant Li but of

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course the web address for the guerilla

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powerhouse so you can have a look there

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and see exactly what you can see WWE

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julep our house calm

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Jenny jeez but thank you for chatting to

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[Music]

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exist

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[Music]

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yes hey Sam

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have you ever wondered what skeptics are

378
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up to in countries where English is not

379
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necessarily the first language or are

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you interested to learn about some

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fascinating and sometimes very bizarre

382
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Europe related facts events or people

383
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from history of skepticism or do you

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just want to know who's been really

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wrong lately you can find out all about

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that and more on the award-winning show

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the ESP the European sceptics podcast so

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where can people find the show you can

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find it online at the ESP dot EU but you

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can also follow us on twitter at es

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podcast on soundcloud iTunes stitcher or

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wherever you get your podcast the

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European skeptics podcast the real ESP

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experience

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I don't know how you can believe his may

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welcome to a very special skeptics in

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the pub here at the Occidental hotel

403
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there's gonna be a lot of carrion here

404
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there's gonna be a lot of skeptical

405
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thinking there's gonna be a lot of

406
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critical thinking and they probably will

407
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be a lot of thinking as well as dr. Karl

408
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risky

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we'll be taking questions from the

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monthly audience here will be getting

411
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questions such as why am I still alive

412
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what am I doing here

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what is the best bus to take home and

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other con nun drums will be sent ease

415
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away I'll be talking to you about

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something special which I haven't

417
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thought of yet

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and we'll be talking to a few people

419
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here and I monthly skeptics in the pub

420
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may not out let's get into it people we

421
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will be asking the big question why

422
00:18:09,789 --> 00:18:08,010
don't people general people tend to

423
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listen to celebrities more than

424
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scientists or experts in their field

425
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you know like a shift will velvety all

426
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about a heart your heart condition where

427
00:18:22,159 --> 00:18:19,620
you know unlikely contacts a heart

428
00:18:24,830 --> 00:18:22,169
surgeon to ask them about anything or if

429
00:18:26,750 --> 00:18:24,840
you've got a cancer problem you talk to

430
00:18:29,409 --> 00:18:26,760
someone who's thin on Instagram rather

431
00:18:30,980 --> 00:18:29,419
than someone in oncology I don't know

432
00:18:34,070 --> 00:18:30,990
why did they do that

433
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:34,080
let's see if we can find out so why do

434
00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:35,490
you think people are drawn to them more

435
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than someone who should know what

436
00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:39,179
they're talking about yeah well I think

437
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it's because they're basically in the

438
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limelight they think that they'll get

439
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the ratings up and I think that it's

440
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good TV but as you said they should

441
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actually get an actual expert news I

442
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mean the experts I mean it's people that

443
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have trained in universities I mean it's

444
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people that have studied and they're the

445
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ones that really know what do you think

446
00:19:02,450 --> 00:19:00,990
it was I think it's easier TVs easy for

447
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people to turn the TV on than going out

448
00:19:07,549 --> 00:19:05,970
and asking questions example is if like

449
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Eurovision is a music thing there's

450
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plenty of musicians in Australia that

451
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can talk about that but they'll get me

452
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or Bob down on to talk about Eurovision

453
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and show we know our stuff but you know

454
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:16,590
we're not musicians it's just who's in

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their contact book you know as a

456
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celebrity I think they can also promote

457
00:19:26,450 --> 00:19:23,730
their either themselves as paleo diet

458
00:19:29,870 --> 00:19:26,460
yeah yeah paleo people he's pushing his

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own own agenda which is paying his wages

460
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kind of things

461
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it's the trouble is that you can't

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actually debate them about it or pull

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pull them up for making something up

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because they've got you know they're

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it's like a clickbait kind of service

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system whether it's like here the more

467
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the headline is controversial where

468
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people want to watch it you know well we

469
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all know you shouldn't take legal advice

470
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from podcast maybe it shouldn't take

471
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advice from morning television in

472
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general yeah thank you quite right there

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I think it's just there that has a bit a

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lot light-hearted things to get you

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going in the morning and that's about it

476
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look and you shouldn't get like

477
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aeronautical advice from Roger ramjet

478
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either because they they go straight

479
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straight 90 degrees up but I'm pretty

480
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sure they can't do that I think you'll

481
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all be pleased to know that the bane of

482
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everybody use the representatives

483
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anything anywhere in this world is

484
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setting up the video projector to play

485
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your computer their files out of it and

486
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dr. Carl is having the usual issue that

487
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just about everybody does when they do

488
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that is that the screen is that the

489
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other screens that the second one is

490
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that connect a bit higher oh oh that's

491
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the wrong file it's it's the world over

492
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there's a matter how many degrees you've

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had or how long you've been studying and

494
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how good you are at scientific

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communication is always the video

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projector that is a hurdle to overcome

497
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in life we're asking why do people take

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advice from celebrities over people who

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have actually studied the topic a good

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example I like is if you're if you're

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got cancer you maybe go to someone who's

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thin on Instagram instead of an

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oncologist yeah so the way I see it with

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that is that people often aspire to be

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like celebrities right they want to look

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like Gwyneth Paltrow they want to carry

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themselves the way that certain so want

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to be Baby Spice it's either that or

509
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Roger Moore I swipe between the two

510
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Roger spicy yet Roger spies yeah well

511
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yes so I think they want to be more like

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them and the bait obviously be more like

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them you know when you meet someone for

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the first time and you're really into

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them you start listening to the bands

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they like and you start from doing the

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things that they like maybe it's like

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that maybe it's psychologically they're

519
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trying to kind of be more like them that

520
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way

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and there are some people who regard

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celebrities like being like their

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friends don't they are being like

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someone that they know it's a one-way

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friendship exactly I'm sure that many

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listeners were skeptical regard Richard

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Saunders as being a close personal

528
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friend because they hear him in there

529
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even more his cats than him but yes they

530
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they feel a very strong affinity to both

531
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those cats absolutely they're their cats

532
00:21:57,500 --> 00:21:55,020
exactly so maybe there's that kind of

533
00:21:59,330 --> 00:21:57,510
that weird blurring of that line okay

534
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and how do you think you could overcome

535
00:22:03,710 --> 00:22:01,950
that but is it to make to prefer the the

536
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experts a little bit more warm like

537
00:22:07,940 --> 00:22:05,580
they're better communicators a bit more

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down-home I think we could do better at

539
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science communication I think we do fail

540
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quite a lot the problem is obviously the

541
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people with the most knowledge aren't

542
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often dual trained in science

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communication like they're good at their

544
00:22:21,260 --> 00:22:18,750
jobs therefore they're not necessarily

545
00:22:22,730 --> 00:22:21,270
good at communicating and that's a shame

546
00:22:23,870 --> 00:22:22,740
but obviously you don't then want to

547
00:22:25,850 --> 00:22:23,880
have people who are the good science

548
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:25,860
communicators but aren't good scientists

549
00:22:30,290 --> 00:22:28,170
yes that's right yeah because you don't

550
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:30,300
have to be communicated to do science do

551
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:32,730
the science exactly exactly so maybe you

552
00:22:35,540 --> 00:22:33,930
almost need it kind of like a magician

553
00:22:37,580 --> 00:22:35,550
in there assistant so you have the

554
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:37,590
beautiful assistant who's able to you

555
00:22:41,570 --> 00:22:40,050
know point at things in our like at the

556
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:41,580
end of desperately seeking Susan the

557
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:45,450
magic club yeah yeah that's exactly are

558
00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:47,250
you not on the same page but someone

559
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:48,480
who's either the first time hello

560
00:22:53,060 --> 00:22:51,810
hello what's your name Alana okay now

561
00:22:55,130 --> 00:22:53,070
what do you reckon the problem is with

562
00:22:56,540 --> 00:22:55,140
people getting on to celebrities rather

563
00:22:59,300 --> 00:22:56,550
listening to someone who knows what

564
00:23:01,100 --> 00:22:59,310
they're talking about I was just

565
00:23:03,140 --> 00:23:01,110
discussing this with Trish a few minutes

566
00:23:05,780 --> 00:23:03,150
ago and I reckon from all the podcasts

567
00:23:07,970 --> 00:23:05,790
I've listened to because that makes me

568
00:23:09,710 --> 00:23:07,980
an expert but when you're you know you

569
00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:09,720
know you recognize someone's face you

570
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:10,710
know their name you know everything

571
00:23:14,420 --> 00:23:12,570
about them that you kind of think that

572
00:23:15,620 --> 00:23:14,430
you are their friend like Trish was

573
00:23:17,540 --> 00:23:15,630
saying it's like a one-way straight

574
00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:17,550
one-way friendship so back in the day

575
00:23:21,230 --> 00:23:19,200
like in the caveman times you would have

576
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:21,240
known this person so you trust the

577
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:23,250
people you know better than you then

578
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:24,480
someone who says they know what they're

579
00:23:28,790 --> 00:23:26,250
talking about and yeah it logically it

580
00:23:30,350 --> 00:23:28,800
makes no sense but unfortunately I think

581
00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:30,360
it's just easier to trust like a friend

582
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:32,640
than it is to say someone who says

583
00:23:35,070 --> 00:23:33,850
they're an expert

584
00:23:37,140 --> 00:23:35,080
so how do you think we need how to

585
00:23:40,140 --> 00:23:37,150
overcome that how do you make an expert

586
00:23:41,490 --> 00:23:40,150
your friend the only thing I can think

587
00:23:44,190 --> 00:23:41,500
of is that if we were more active on

588
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:44,200
social media we were more fun I mean

589
00:23:48,420 --> 00:23:46,480
that's why celebrities are famous is

590
00:23:49,980 --> 00:23:48,430
because they are active on social media

591
00:23:52,860 --> 00:23:49,990
they're active and magazines are active

592
00:23:54,180 --> 00:23:52,870
on TV they do interviews you know that

593
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:54,190
all these things make people really

594
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:55,840
interesting like I know that we're not

595
00:23:59,970 --> 00:23:57,970
at this man's talk but Bill Nye is

596
00:24:01,350 --> 00:23:59,980
really interesting to watch and I've

597
00:24:04,380 --> 00:24:01,360
just found out today that he doesn't

598
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:04,390
he's not even a scientist but that kind

599
00:24:08,580 --> 00:24:06,850
of charisma is like how you might be

600
00:24:11,070 --> 00:24:08,590
able to reach more people and be more

601
00:24:12,780 --> 00:24:11,080
believable anything Bill Nye went in

602
00:24:14,430 --> 00:24:12,790
that debate he did with the creationist

603
00:24:16,590 --> 00:24:14,440
couple years ago did you see that at all

604
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:16,600
I actually only saw a few clips but I

605
00:24:20,550 --> 00:24:18,400
was also just mentioning this earlier I

606
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:20,560
think he was so impressive and really

607
00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:22,210
respectful for someone who clearly he

608
00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:24,370
didn't have any respect for ya which I

609
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:26,320
thought I was learning a lot about how

610
00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:28,240
to speak to someone that I had no regard

611
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:31,360
for a chance to ask on some questions

612
00:24:35,340 --> 00:24:33,010
not if you've got any any pre loaded

613
00:24:38,010 --> 00:24:35,350
question to Alaska unfortunately because

614
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:38,020
I'm a foreigner I've never heard of dr.

615
00:24:41,550 --> 00:24:39,970
Karl and I'm very privileged that this

616
00:24:43,710 --> 00:24:41,560
is gonna be my first experience is like

617
00:24:45,930 --> 00:24:43,720
firsthand yes so I'm just really excited

618
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:45,940
to see what other people are asking yes

619
00:24:48,150 --> 00:24:47,170
that means you get to ask two questions

620
00:24:50,130 --> 00:24:48,160
Trish

621
00:24:52,730 --> 00:24:50,140
there we go have you got any lined up so

622
00:24:53,910 --> 00:24:52,740
my question is gonna be why and when

623
00:24:55,290 --> 00:24:53,920
okay

624
00:24:57,390 --> 00:24:55,300
well mine's a bit longer that might say

625
00:24:59,520 --> 00:24:57,400
why am I still alive will be one the

626
00:25:01,260 --> 00:24:59,530
questions I'll be asking him yes stuff

627
00:25:02,610 --> 00:25:01,270
like that you don't know yeah not that

628
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:02,620
the answer but he'll give it a good

629
00:25:05,940 --> 00:25:04,810
red-hot go but and also let's think

630
00:25:07,620 --> 00:25:05,950
about scientist if they don't know

631
00:25:09,870 --> 00:25:07,630
something they might say I don't know

632
00:25:11,070 --> 00:25:09,880
where celebrities rarely will move out

633
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:11,080
because that will that will not look

634
00:25:14,830 --> 00:25:12,610
good if they say that yeah they'll

635
00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:14,840
always give an answer

636
00:25:18,759 --> 00:25:16,609
they're so confident and I think that

637
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:18,769
might be the key confidence and Krishna

638
00:25:23,859 --> 00:25:21,679
is key you have to have a most annoying

639
00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:23,869
celebrity who's that how are we going to

640
00:25:28,690 --> 00:25:26,840
fail try to be honest Oh what's the

641
00:25:30,729 --> 00:25:28,700
latest thing to do shove up and do stuff

642
00:25:33,220 --> 00:25:30,739
on whatever she's doing candles wax

643
00:25:35,379 --> 00:25:33,230
smoke you know well it's more the

644
00:25:36,639 --> 00:25:35,389
hypocrisy it's more the fact that like

645
00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:36,649
she keeps on coming out and saying that

646
00:25:39,129 --> 00:25:37,609
you know what they're doing isn't

647
00:25:41,019 --> 00:25:39,139
actually that bad because people are

648
00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:41,029
choosing in it's empowering women it is

649
00:25:44,619 --> 00:25:43,039
not empowering women it is she'll keep

650
00:25:46,690 --> 00:25:44,629
on coming out and saying how like what

651
00:25:48,129 --> 00:25:46,700
she's doing is it's empowerment or it's

652
00:25:50,229 --> 00:25:48,139
just you know if you don't like it don't

653
00:25:52,989 --> 00:25:50,239
buy it but that's not how it works like

654
00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:52,999
ultimately she's marketing towards women

655
00:25:56,229 --> 00:25:54,710
who want to improve themselves in some

656
00:25:58,269 --> 00:25:56,239
way and all she's doing is taking their

657
00:26:05,320 --> 00:25:58,279
money and running hmm and you got an

658
00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:05,330
annoying celebrity team Oh everything

659
00:26:11,409 --> 00:26:08,480
has been pretty damning no one knows who

660
00:26:13,180 --> 00:26:11,419
you actually at the budget I was looking

661
00:26:14,919 --> 00:26:13,190
at the people in the background and I

662
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:14,929
said who is that guy and it was Scottie

663
00:26:18,879 --> 00:26:17,450
mouse I'm sorry I don't know that person

664
00:26:20,729 --> 00:26:18,889
is I'm missing one minister man hold

665
00:26:22,930 --> 00:26:20,739
that oh right you should

666
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:22,940
scotty mo i thought it was pronounced

667
00:26:29,649 --> 00:26:28,369
scope depends on your dialect that's

668
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:29,659
fine mind you i couldn't tell you who

669
00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:32,570
the the head of the National Party is I

670
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:33,710
couldn't tell you that it's probably for

671
00:26:36,669 --> 00:26:34,159
the best

672
00:26:39,009 --> 00:26:36,679
British prime minister it's because

673
00:26:41,049 --> 00:26:39,019
there isn't 100 what so what so yeah

674
00:26:42,999 --> 00:26:41,059
what do they have a caretaker in this

675
00:26:45,609 --> 00:26:43,009
situation how's that been a caretaker

676
00:26:46,749 --> 00:26:45,619
for the last 20 years no yeah Speaker of

677
00:26:50,379 --> 00:26:46,759
the House is now the most powerful

678
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:50,389
person in Britain it's really crazy but

679
00:26:54,460 --> 00:26:51,679
Brian bliss and to do it he's got the

680
00:26:56,830 --> 00:26:54,470
loudest voice he could carry on buddy

681
00:26:58,690 --> 00:26:56,840
it's brilliant at lying years I actually

682
00:27:00,639 --> 00:26:58,700
watched him in Flash Gordon 1980 of the

683
00:27:02,109 --> 00:27:00,649
movie I recommend that he heat there's

684
00:27:03,950 --> 00:27:02,119
only one line in the entire film he does

685
00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:03,960
not hello

686
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:06,460
[Applause]

687
00:27:12,869 --> 00:27:11,820
because we here at the front table here

688
00:27:14,490 --> 00:27:12,879
here these are the people that will

689
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:14,500
absorb the most maximum knowledge from

690
00:27:18,629 --> 00:27:16,480
dr. Carr when he does start to talk and

691
00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:18,639
he is it expert in many different fields

692
00:27:22,769 --> 00:27:20,320
but why do you think people take advice

693
00:27:24,570 --> 00:27:22,779
from celebrities rather than scientists

694
00:27:28,289 --> 00:27:24,580
or experts in their field

695
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:28,299
I think people seem to have a an

696
00:27:32,249 --> 00:27:30,159
appreciation or love of celebrities and

697
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:32,259
they will absorb information from people

698
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:34,570
that they know more than somebody they

699
00:27:37,980 --> 00:27:36,129
don't know and they see this person on

700
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:37,990
TV all the time and they're on their

701
00:27:42,690 --> 00:27:40,330
social media feeds and so the more that

702
00:27:45,749 --> 00:27:42,700
they see somebody the more they feel

703
00:27:46,919 --> 00:27:45,759
that they're trustworthy it's like it's

704
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:46,929
the one mo friendship thing they think

705
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:50,289
they know them yeah yeah so do you think

706
00:27:53,639 --> 00:27:52,000
the way they look or the way they seem

707
00:27:55,619 --> 00:27:53,649
to talk so easily on television

708
00:27:57,180 --> 00:27:55,629
persuades people a little bit more bit

709
00:27:59,279 --> 00:27:57,190
the way they bit more smooth about their

710
00:28:01,139 --> 00:27:59,289
communication where sometimes scientists

711
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:01,149
will use big words or they'll actually

712
00:28:04,619 --> 00:28:02,799
think about what they're going to say

713
00:28:06,450 --> 00:28:04,629
before they say it so there's a pause I

714
00:28:08,340 --> 00:28:06,460
guess it would be because a lot of the

715
00:28:09,690 --> 00:28:08,350
other celebrities have script writers so

716
00:28:12,450 --> 00:28:09,700
when they're in a TV show or the movie

717
00:28:13,710 --> 00:28:12,460
they've got a team of people affecting

718
00:28:15,299 --> 00:28:13,720
what they're going to say so they often

719
00:28:17,340 --> 00:28:15,309
sound a lot more intelligent than they

720
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:17,350
very well could be I'm not saying that

721
00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:18,970
they're not incredibly intelligent they

722
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:20,409
have to have some you know some level

723
00:28:23,490 --> 00:28:22,210
intelligence to get where you are but

724
00:28:25,889 --> 00:28:23,500
you know to have that team of people

725
00:28:27,659 --> 00:28:25,899
behind you you could play a scientist in

726
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:27,669
a movie and people therefore think that

727
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:30,330
you're you have those qualifications I

728
00:28:34,529 --> 00:28:32,710
found dr. Zarkov in the Flash Gordon

729
00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:34,539
1980 movie very believable as a

730
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:37,840
scientist he was good he had a Eastern

731
00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:39,850
European accent and a beard yeah well I

732
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:43,360
mean dr. evil yes very trustworthy if

733
00:28:47,009 --> 00:28:45,250
you've got a most annoying celebrity is

734
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:47,019
there one that over time is like been

735
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:50,320
our walk this person again my personal

736
00:28:56,340 --> 00:28:52,809
favorite would be Tom Cruise so I find

737
00:28:58,649 --> 00:28:56,350
him quite hard to deal with I can't take

738
00:29:00,720 --> 00:28:58,659
him seriously in any of the roles that

739
00:29:02,430 --> 00:29:00,730
he plays the Scientology thing is it's

740
00:29:05,820 --> 00:29:02,440
something else other than that that

741
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:05,830
probably helped compound my my belief

742
00:29:10,770 --> 00:29:08,010
that he was just

743
00:29:13,020 --> 00:29:10,780
so jumping on the couch thing did that

744
00:29:14,670 --> 00:29:13,030
not help that also didn't help yeah that

745
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:14,680
was there was a whole list of things I

746
00:29:20,730 --> 00:29:18,370
just found him personally to personally

747
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:20,740
grind my gears of it whenever I see him

748
00:29:24,690 --> 00:29:22,960
he looks like a very driven person he

749
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:24,700
gets into his roles he produces his

750
00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:27,760
roles and and really is intense but

751
00:29:31,050 --> 00:29:29,080
you're right there's something that like

752
00:29:32,130 --> 00:29:31,060
it takes away from that isn't it I'm not

753
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:32,140
sure whether it's that level of

754
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:35,290
intensity that he's tiring perhaps these

755
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:37,360
there was too much I went on I'm an 80s

756
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:39,010
kid so you know there was the whole Top

757
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:41,290
Gun era you know there was a he was just

758
00:29:45,420 --> 00:29:43,930
seemed to be in a lot of roles the one I

759
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:45,430
liked was was it Nicole Kidman as a

760
00:29:49,290 --> 00:29:47,770
neurosurgeon in some something Thunder

761
00:29:52,650 --> 00:29:49,300
the racing car one that they did

762
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:52,660
together a year I use a thunder I'm

763
00:29:58,980 --> 00:29:54,250
pretty sure she was in neurosurgeon yeah

764
00:30:00,390 --> 00:29:58,990
no and yeah so yeah and that I didn't

765
00:30:01,980 --> 00:30:00,400
buy that one very easily no I know I

766
00:30:04,410 --> 00:30:01,990
certainly haven't had surgery done by

767
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:04,420
Nicole Kidman either that's - that's a

768
00:30:08,010 --> 00:30:06,610
sample group of - and what what do you

769
00:30:08,790 --> 00:30:08,020
think about the whole celebrity thing

770
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:08,800
there because because you've been

771
00:30:11,970 --> 00:30:10,690
exposed to the UK ones and is it worse

772
00:30:14,010 --> 00:30:11,980
than the UK than here with the

773
00:30:16,050 --> 00:30:14,020
celebrities pushing stuff no I think

774
00:30:18,540 --> 00:30:16,060
it's about the same and I think in this

775
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:18,550
day and age where celebrities can be

776
00:30:22,260 --> 00:30:20,890
worldwide extremely quickly I don't

777
00:30:24,380 --> 00:30:22,270
think it really matters which country

778
00:30:27,210 --> 00:30:24,390
you're actually physically located in I

779
00:30:29,970 --> 00:30:27,220
think people become really obsessed with

780
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:29,980
celebrities like watch TV shows and

781
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:31,570
movies and stuff and you get your

782
00:30:35,910 --> 00:30:34,240
favorite celebrities and you're you very

783
00:30:39,270 --> 00:30:35,920
much you know you're reading a lot about

784
00:30:41,070 --> 00:30:39,280
them in the press and you develop an

785
00:30:43,740 --> 00:30:41,080
obsession with them or you can buy

786
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:43,750
something up and then as soon as they

787
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:45,250
start

788
00:30:50,370 --> 00:30:48,730
saying something you just want to you

789
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:50,380
want to be believing what they're saying

790
00:30:53,610 --> 00:30:52,330
so even if they're going on

791
00:30:55,140 --> 00:30:53,620
you know something which is not very

792
00:30:56,910 --> 00:30:55,150
very helpful and not backed up by

793
00:31:00,180 --> 00:30:56,920
experts they've probably got somebody

794
00:31:01,470 --> 00:31:00,190
behind them who's backing up that

795
00:31:03,660 --> 00:31:01,480
they've got somebody that they're

796
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:03,670
thinking is an expert that they're a lot

797
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:05,440
of them believe what point they're

798
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:08,530
trying to put across yes who's the one

799
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:09,610
that annoys you the most of all the

800
00:31:14,130 --> 00:31:12,450
celebrities out there Jenny McCarthy

801
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:14,140
with Jim Carrey

802
00:31:18,150 --> 00:31:16,000
they are big celebrities people know

803
00:31:25,170 --> 00:31:18,160
about them and I feel like what they

804
00:31:27,690 --> 00:31:25,180
have done for the ante Waxman has been

805
00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:27,700
sort of unprecedented I know cuz we had

806
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:29,710
the recent outbreak of measles in New

807
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:31,840
York City or among the Hasidic Jews

808
00:31:36,150 --> 00:31:33,610
there as well yeah and amongst other

809
00:31:37,770 --> 00:31:36,160
places and we've had much higher fully

810
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:37,780
rates than normal here we've had many

811
00:31:42,450 --> 00:31:39,970
many deaths in Australia due to flu this

812
00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:42,460
year and if people were getting their

813
00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:45,070
vaccinations more frequently those

814
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:48,220
statistics would be a lot lower I point

815
00:31:51,540 --> 00:31:49,810
people to the one thing most recent

816
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:51,550
episodes of FAMILY GUY where they did

817
00:31:55,410 --> 00:31:53,110
the vaccination issue which was quite

818
00:31:57,210 --> 00:31:55,420
good as well I think the celebrity that

819
00:32:00,360 --> 00:31:57,220
was Sean Penn Sean Penn flew in and

820
00:32:02,010 --> 00:32:00,370
treated Long Island like a third world

821
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:02,020
nation and gave them more vaccinations

822
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:05,110
it's very nice what are you hoping to

823
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:06,490
ask dr. Carr by the way you got any

824
00:32:08,610 --> 00:32:07,690
questions lined up because you're the

825
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:08,620
closest you're gonna get the most

826
00:32:13,650 --> 00:32:11,110
knowledge out of him not that I can

827
00:32:15,450 --> 00:32:13,660
think of right now okay well you know

828
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:15,460
maybe just sit back and ask someone else

829
00:32:18,030 --> 00:32:16,690
our something hopefully hopefully I'll

830
00:32:24,140 --> 00:32:18,040
have enough knowledge by the end of it

831
00:32:28,850 --> 00:32:26,000
well I'm here with dr. Kyle he's about

832
00:32:30,350 --> 00:32:28,860
to go on that area do all your smartest

833
00:32:31,310 --> 00:32:30,360
microphones good enough to cut through

834
00:32:34,490 --> 00:32:31,320
everything dr. Kyle

835
00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:34,500
nod now I'm just have you ever been

836
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:35,880
parodied by anybody because most

837
00:32:39,050 --> 00:32:37,440
Australian celebrities that some spies

838
00:32:44,090 --> 00:32:39,060
have been parody does it ever happen to

839
00:32:47,290 --> 00:32:44,100
you yes there was one character who

840
00:32:51,530 --> 00:32:47,300
wears a bright shirt on draw mad as hell

841
00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:51,540
yeah so he's one and it's some sort of

842
00:32:56,990 --> 00:32:54,480
academic who speaks in gibberish and

843
00:32:59,720 --> 00:32:57,000
I've had several songs paranoid

844
00:33:01,580 --> 00:32:59,730
parroting me off and I'm very happy with

845
00:33:03,710 --> 00:33:01,590
it I don't mind at all that's always a

846
00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:03,720
great bit of flattery and now today

847
00:33:07,370 --> 00:33:05,340
you're gonna be giving a chat here and

848
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:07,380
expecting a range of questions what do

849
00:33:10,850 --> 00:33:09,330
people in the general population been

850
00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:10,860
asking you about most lately when they

851
00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:12,600
bump into you I mean everyone's always

852
00:33:16,130 --> 00:33:14,580
asking doctor stuff but is there a topic

853
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:16,140
that's come up more than usual when I

854
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:17,970
try to avoid I try to avoid doctor stuff

855
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:21,810
on the grounds that I do not know the

856
00:33:28,090 --> 00:33:25,370
person's past medical surgical

857
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:28,100
gynecological pharmacological

858
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:30,930
endocrinology call etc history and

859
00:33:35,690 --> 00:33:32,970
without that you're sort of stumbling in

860
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:35,700
the dark in an emergency I will but in

861
00:33:40,490 --> 00:33:37,770
most cases the advices just go and see

862
00:33:42,140 --> 00:33:40,500
your GP and this is purely theoretical

863
00:33:45,170 --> 00:33:42,150
knowledge in which case I'm happy to

864
00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:45,180
hand that over again relatively few

865
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:46,710
medical questions because we try to stop

866
00:33:52,670 --> 00:33:49,890
them so today we're just a few minutes

867
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:52,680
ago I had a question on how come you

868
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:54,710
hardly ever see dead birds

869
00:34:00,430 --> 00:33:57,770
and the answer is that nature is bloody

870
00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:00,440
in tooth and claw and turns dead birds

871
00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:03,440
into food for the carrion eaters that

872
00:34:08,170 --> 00:34:05,840
happen to be around this morning I had a

873
00:34:12,850 --> 00:34:08,180
lovely question from an eight-year-old

874
00:34:16,690 --> 00:34:12,860
in Brisbane called Beryl and she wanted

875
00:34:18,370 --> 00:34:16,700
to know what was inside a proton that a

876
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:18,380
quark I don't remember what is it oh

877
00:34:20,860 --> 00:34:19,610
that's tricky

878
00:34:22,570 --> 00:34:20,870
it turns out that there's a nice

879
00:34:25,930 --> 00:34:22,580
symmetry between the very large and the

880
00:34:28,510 --> 00:34:25,940
very small they both have about 90

881
00:34:33,130 --> 00:34:28,520
something percent missing so with the

882
00:34:37,060 --> 00:34:33,140
entire known universe we can only see or

883
00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:37,070
detect directly about 5% and 95% is

884
00:34:43,420 --> 00:34:39,220
missing being in a form of dark matter

885
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:43,430
25% or dark and energy 70% and then way

886
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:46,610
at the other end of the scale going down

887
00:34:54,220 --> 00:34:49,850
to a proton or a neutron which is inside

888
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:54,230
madam 91% is missing of the mass so

889
00:34:59,560 --> 00:34:57,290
they're made of quarks there are six

890
00:35:02,290 --> 00:34:59,570
different quarks combined with their six

891
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:02,300
anti quark so there's 12 so you've got

892
00:35:09,250 --> 00:35:06,290
up and down top and bottom strange and

893
00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:09,260
charm it turns out the protons just give

894
00:35:16,330 --> 00:35:13,070
it easy a made of two ups and one down

895
00:35:17,740 --> 00:35:16,340
and they're fundamental particles and

896
00:35:21,220 --> 00:35:17,750
because our fundamental particles

897
00:35:23,590 --> 00:35:21,230
therefore their mass is given to them by

898
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:23,600
the Higgs field when you add up that

899
00:35:29,650 --> 00:35:26,810
mass you only get 9% of the mass of the

900
00:35:32,290 --> 00:35:29,660
proton and the other 91% is missing and

901
00:35:35,170 --> 00:35:32,300
we've just worked out the figures came

902
00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:35,180
through last year that the remaining 91%

903
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:37,040
have broken up to various categories

904
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:40,160
involving gluons and gluons interacting

905
00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:41,810
with

906
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:44,960
quarks and then quarks and gluons all

907
00:35:49,690 --> 00:35:46,880
interacting with each other and they're

908
00:35:51,820 --> 00:35:49,700
doing it by motion ions I said equals

909
00:35:54,820 --> 00:35:51,830
mc-squared do you think of energy as

910
00:35:56,740 --> 00:35:54,830
mass has been lit free from its bounds

911
00:35:58,300 --> 00:35:56,750
and binds where and the other way is

912
00:36:00,070 --> 00:35:58,310
that mass is mg this beam coagulator

913
00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:00,080
down so if you've got stuff that's

914
00:36:06,670 --> 00:36:04,160
moving fast enough it has mass the speed

915
00:36:09,340 --> 00:36:06,680
gives it the mass this is sort of point

916
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:09,350
two as a possibility that we are a three

917
00:36:11,980 --> 00:36:10,730
dimensional projection from a two

918
00:36:13,660 --> 00:36:11,990
dimensional object or something like

919
00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:13,670
that most point of absolute where some

920
00:36:17,290 --> 00:36:15,710
work one thing could be where a hologram

921
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:17,300
so there actually isn't anything else

922
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:19,250
there except some master controller

923
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:20,810
that's making the image for us well

924
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:22,370
that's caught that's kind of the essence

925
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:25,010
of string theory that the fundamental

926
00:36:29,140 --> 00:36:26,480
particles are this one of the three main

927
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:29,150
options none of them are prune that the

928
00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:31,760
fundamental particles are interactions

929
00:36:38,380 --> 00:36:36,320
of these one-dimensional strings that

930
00:36:41,230 --> 00:36:38,390
live in a n dimensional universe where

931
00:36:44,590 --> 00:36:41,240
in is about eleven or twelve and where

932
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:44,600
they kiss our world they interact with

933
00:36:49,450 --> 00:36:47,210
their vibrations to create quarks but

934
00:36:51,490 --> 00:36:49,460
there's no proof of that yeah I mean is

935
00:36:54,010 --> 00:36:51,500
it provable at all because it means

936
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:54,020
getting into the very working nature of

937
00:37:04,570 --> 00:36:57,410
a level we can't see or explore camera

938
00:37:06,460 --> 00:37:04,580
well if you had told me in 2008 that I

939
00:37:09,370 --> 00:37:06,470
could walk across the spectrum or cross

940
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:09,380
Spain with a computer in my pocket and

941
00:37:17,140 --> 00:37:12,770
with their computer I could do English

942
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:17,150
Spanish translation and get email and

943
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:18,530
the World Wide Web

944
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:20,330
etc etcetera etcetera and have a phone

945
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:21,890
and a diary I would have said make

946
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:23,330
you're pushing him but now it's

947
00:37:27,250 --> 00:37:26,090
commonplace to everybody 2000 and mid

948
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:27,260
two thousands when he had the first

949
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:29,090
smartphones they didn't really work

950
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:33,200
until 2009 when the iPhone 3 came out

951
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:36,050
the iPhone 3 was the first functioning

952
00:37:39,580 --> 00:37:37,850
smartphone there's worthwhile spending

953
00:37:42,910 --> 00:37:39,590
your money on all of us and was just

954
00:37:46,210 --> 00:37:42,920
crap and it was amazing that I could

955
00:37:48,250 --> 00:37:46,220
carry so much capability with me in my

956
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:48,260
pocket and carry it across the

957
00:37:52,970 --> 00:37:49,970
countryside I could believe

958
00:37:54,620 --> 00:37:52,980
but if you taught me in 2000 I could do

959
00:37:58,910 --> 00:37:54,630
that no way my first got onto the

960
00:38:01,700 --> 00:37:58,920
Internet in 1987 and it took a long time

961
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:01,710
just to even plug in and now you can

962
00:38:05,570 --> 00:38:03,570
just do it automatically so I don't know

963
00:38:07,340 --> 00:38:05,580
differences he's saying is it impossible

964
00:38:10,070 --> 00:38:07,350
I will find out what's going on with

965
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:10,080
regard to 12 dimensional space it's not

966
00:38:15,530 --> 00:38:12,090
impossible but we will find out as we

967
00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:15,540
get closer and climate change is an

968
00:38:19,730 --> 00:38:17,910
existential threat but I'm being a cold

969
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:19,740
war person I remember how the whole

970
00:38:22,460 --> 00:38:21,210
world could be obliterated an afternoon

971
00:38:24,110 --> 00:38:22,470
with nuclear weapons which is still

972
00:38:25,850 --> 00:38:24,120
possible and people don't seem to talk

973
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:25,860
about that as much anymore and it would

974
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:28,050
happen a lot faster where I mean yes

975
00:38:31,700 --> 00:38:29,730
climate change will change our planet

976
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:31,710
but we were once an ice ball earth after

977
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:33,450
all our planet does that from time to

978
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:37,440
time doesn't well at the peak of the

979
00:38:47,090 --> 00:38:42,810
Cold War we had 30,000 nuclear weapons

980
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:47,100
and on both sides and if they'd all gone

981
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:49,760
off in an afternoon most of humanity

982
00:38:56,030 --> 00:38:52,290
would be dead within six months there'd

983
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:56,040
be no electricity but we managed to

984
00:38:59,720 --> 00:38:57,810
avoid that now we're down to about three

985
00:39:03,460 --> 00:38:59,730
or four thousand nuclear weapons which

986
00:39:06,140 --> 00:39:03,470
is better than yeah right okay

987
00:39:07,790 --> 00:39:06,150
I'm optimistic I think we're humans

988
00:39:09,590 --> 00:39:07,800
we'll get through I'll be talking a

989
00:39:11,630 --> 00:39:09,600
little tiny bit on climate change and

990
00:39:13,370 --> 00:39:11,640
I'm basically optimistic that we can fix

991
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:13,380
it all we need to do is get people good

992
00:39:19,070 --> 00:39:16,730
people into politics as simple as that

993
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:19,080
as simple as that and I want to thank if

994
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:20,970
you show that it's been seen on cable

995
00:39:24,110 --> 00:39:22,290
here in Australia our doctor Carl's

996
00:39:25,850 --> 00:39:24,120
amazing moments of science because you

997
00:39:27,620 --> 00:39:25,860
introduced us to a few scientists that I

998
00:39:29,330 --> 00:39:27,630
haven't met before there was a net flow

999
00:39:31,460 --> 00:39:29,340
physicist who she was brilliant and

1000
00:39:32,060 --> 00:39:31,470
there was a biologist and she was

1001
00:39:33,770 --> 00:39:32,070
brilliant as well

1002
00:39:35,210 --> 00:39:33,780
they were great communicators and I'd

1003
00:39:37,550 --> 00:39:35,220
not seen them on television before they

1004
00:39:39,830 --> 00:39:37,560
were really good oh well I'm just a

1005
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:39,840
little conduit trying to bring the

1006
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:41,250
goodness into the people's hearts and

1007
00:39:44,330 --> 00:39:42,570
minds

1008
00:39:46,190 --> 00:39:44,340
and one of the pieces you did have is

1009
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:46,200
the best way to stop being bombed by

1010
00:39:49,550 --> 00:39:48,240
Magpies and what is the best thing to

1011
00:39:51,470 --> 00:39:49,560
wear on your head to stop being bombed

1012
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:51,480
by Magpies I've totally forgotten

1013
00:39:55,070 --> 00:39:53,130
refresh my memory is it a hat with

1014
00:39:56,180 --> 00:39:55,080
circles on it observe it circles and

1015
00:39:58,130 --> 00:39:56,190
there was a few different things like

1016
00:40:00,260 --> 00:39:58,140
you would try cable ties or you tries

1017
00:40:02,060 --> 00:40:00,270
drawing eyes on the back of everything

1018
00:40:03,590 --> 00:40:02,070
there the best way to make them not bomb

1019
00:40:08,060 --> 00:40:03,600
you the trouble is though that the

1020
00:40:11,540 --> 00:40:08,070
Magpies fiendishly intelligent there's a

1021
00:40:15,260 --> 00:40:11,550
learn they learn and they pass the

1022
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:15,270
knowledge on to their children so if you

1023
00:40:19,970 --> 00:40:17,610
or somebody looking like you attack

1024
00:40:23,020 --> 00:40:19,980
their nest that'll take you and then

1025
00:40:25,460 --> 00:40:23,030
their children will attack you I have

1026
00:40:28,210 --> 00:40:25,470
made friends with a few Magpies out of

1027
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:28,220
the front and I love hearing their song

1028
00:40:32,780 --> 00:40:30,810
yeah they've got a lovely song they are

1029
00:40:36,380 --> 00:40:32,790
beats a girl ah that's for sure well

1030
00:40:39,110 --> 00:40:36,390
that's me too so it's hard to stop a

1031
00:40:41,870 --> 00:40:39,120
magpie if it's trying to protect this

1032
00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:41,880
nest in the breeding season if it thinks

1033
00:40:46,130 --> 00:40:43,320
or wrongly that you've done something so

1034
00:40:47,540 --> 00:40:46,140
having spikes on your helmet they'll

1035
00:40:49,460 --> 00:40:47,550
still go for it because they're

1036
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:49,470
therefore taking their children because

1037
00:40:53,260 --> 00:40:50,730
you're just trying to catch a ride your

1038
00:40:56,060 --> 00:40:53,270
bicycle to work so they've got a higher

1039
00:40:57,890 --> 00:40:56,070
evolutionary imperative dr. Karl you've

1040
00:40:59,120 --> 00:40:57,900
got a talk fairly soon but the question

1041
00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:59,130
we've been asking people is why do you

1042
00:41:03,650 --> 00:41:01,200
think people are quicker to believe

1043
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:03,660
celebrities rather than experts or

1044
00:41:07,490 --> 00:41:05,850
scientists in the field like you know

1045
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:07,500
though they'll look to Instagram for

1046
00:41:11,090 --> 00:41:09,210
someone for cancer advice and diet

1047
00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:11,100
advice rather than an oncologist or a

1048
00:41:14,930 --> 00:41:13,710
dietician I don't know I had a good

1049
00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:14,940
example of that the other day when I was

1050
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:17,910
being interviewed by a person about the

1051
00:41:22,310 --> 00:41:20,910
5g Network and they said well I didn't

1052
00:41:25,010 --> 00:41:22,320
know much about Rho into this webpage

1053
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:25,020
and I kept on reading more and more and

1054
00:41:28,910 --> 00:41:26,370
by the end of three hours I was

1055
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:28,920
convinced well if I went to a webpage

1056
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:31,290
that tried to tell me that you shouldn't

1057
00:41:36,020 --> 00:41:33,810
get vaccinated or that the earth was

1058
00:41:38,330 --> 00:41:36,030
flat or that we never went to the moon I

1059
00:41:41,210 --> 00:41:38,340
would spend 10 hours there I would go to

1060
00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:41,220
zero convincing so I think what we're

1061
00:41:45,980 --> 00:41:43,260
finding and it's always been the case a

1062
00:41:47,420 --> 00:41:45,990
lack of critical thinking we're not

1063
00:41:49,940 --> 00:41:47,430
teaching critical thinking we're not

1064
00:41:51,830 --> 00:41:49,950
teaching people how to think we always

1065
00:41:53,809 --> 00:41:51,840
have a little bit and we always haven't

1066
00:41:55,189 --> 00:41:53,819
mostly so

1067
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:55,199
no really different from the past except

1068
00:41:59,180 --> 00:41:57,119
it just happens faster and the wrong

1069
00:42:02,390 --> 00:41:59,190
information the incorrect information

1070
00:42:04,819 --> 00:42:02,400
travels faster but hundreds of years ago

1071
00:42:06,799 --> 00:42:04,829
we believed crap like with regard to the

1072
00:42:09,439 --> 00:42:06,809
Great Fire of London that it was set off

1073
00:42:12,140 --> 00:42:09,449
by a Frenchman when it wasn't you know

1074
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:12,150
and he got killed for being French and

1075
00:42:16,130 --> 00:42:14,249
Catholic it happened a few Spanish guys

1076
00:42:19,309 --> 00:42:16,140
over the time - around about that time -

1077
00:42:22,009 --> 00:42:19,319
yeah so we've always believed crap and

1078
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:22,019
we live in a complicated we live in a

1079
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:24,690
society which has about 1% of the

1080
00:42:28,370 --> 00:42:26,130
population having psychopathic

1081
00:42:31,069 --> 00:42:28,380
tendencies and on the other than

1082
00:42:34,309 --> 00:42:31,079
complicate a bit more we are living in

1083
00:42:36,229 --> 00:42:34,319
the most peaceful time ever in a history

1084
00:42:38,029 --> 00:42:36,239
of the human race if you read the books

1085
00:42:41,029 --> 00:42:38,039
by Steven Pinker the better angels of

1086
00:42:43,130 --> 00:42:41,039
our nature and fact fullness by hands

1087
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:43,140
rustling you'll see that they present a

1088
00:42:47,569 --> 00:42:44,880
very good case but then the other side

1089
00:42:50,209 --> 00:42:47,579
of the coin is that the longer the

1090
00:42:53,469 --> 00:42:50,219
period of peace the greater the

1091
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:53,479
financial inequality and if you read

1092
00:42:59,719 --> 00:42:56,640
capitalism in the 21st century by

1093
00:43:02,269 --> 00:42:59,729
biggity and the Four Horsemen of the

1094
00:43:03,739 --> 00:43:02,279
Apocalypse by Schindler you'll see and

1095
00:43:06,229 --> 00:43:03,749
this goes back tens of thousands of

1096
00:43:08,299 --> 00:43:06,239
years that the longer the peace are more

1097
00:43:10,849 --> 00:43:08,309
the financial inequality now

1098
00:43:14,180 --> 00:43:10,859
traditionally the financial inequality

1099
00:43:16,459 --> 00:43:14,190
has been reset by plague or war or

1100
00:43:18,109 --> 00:43:16,469
collapse of a state or revolution the

1101
00:43:19,819 --> 00:43:18,119
trouble with them is that while they do

1102
00:43:22,759 --> 00:43:19,829
the good thing of resetting the economic

1103
00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:22,769
balance they involve lots of dead people

1104
00:43:27,439 --> 00:43:24,839
and I'm hoping that we'll find a better

1105
00:43:30,099 --> 00:43:27,449
way through harmony and peace and love

1106
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:30,109
man that doesn't involve killing people

1107
00:43:34,370 --> 00:43:32,609
I've seen ads on the television by one

1108
00:43:35,959 --> 00:43:34,380
the Kardashians up telling us how to get

1109
00:43:37,339 --> 00:43:35,969
rid of pimples is there a more simple

1110
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:37,349
way of getting rid of pimples that you

1111
00:43:43,729 --> 00:43:41,249
would recommend dr. Carr or what was the

1112
00:43:45,380 --> 00:43:43,739
condition of method but basically it was

1113
00:43:47,449 --> 00:43:45,390
like something we put on there to like

1114
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:47,459
help your skin get better and kill the

1115
00:43:50,209 --> 00:43:48,930
bugs and that kind of thing and

1116
00:43:51,620 --> 00:43:50,219
something or another was what's you're

1117
00:43:53,209 --> 00:43:51,630
selling but I'm just running what's the

1118
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:53,219
general advice to keep pimples or acne

1119
00:43:58,210 --> 00:43:55,970
to a minimum anyway

1120
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:58,220
hormones play a part

1121
00:44:05,450 --> 00:44:00,720
diet plays a microscopic part if

1122
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:05,460
anything bacteria on the skin can play a

1123
00:44:08,059 --> 00:44:05,910
part

1124
00:44:09,470 --> 00:44:08,069
I don't have enough information to be

1125
00:44:11,779 --> 00:44:09,480
able to give a coherent answer I'm

1126
00:44:13,220 --> 00:44:11,789
bombing out okay but probably washing

1127
00:44:15,940 --> 00:44:13,230
the face fairly often wouldn't be a bad

1128
00:44:18,529 --> 00:44:15,950
idea yes and no you shouldn't use so oh

1129
00:44:21,710 --> 00:44:18,539
no you're so good it scours too much

1130
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:21,720
does it well you have fat changes pee on

1131
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:24,510
the skin and the fat comes from two

1132
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:28,079
sources one is from sebum from the

1133
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:30,930
sebaceous glands and you can increase

1134
00:44:37,069 --> 00:44:33,690
the supply or not as your body sees fit

1135
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:37,079
the other sort of source of fat is the

1136
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:40,890
plasma membranes around your dead skin

1137
00:44:46,220 --> 00:44:42,930
cells and they died a pretty constant

1138
00:44:48,500 --> 00:44:46,230
rate so you can't really increase that

1139
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:48,510
so if you use soap you wash off all of

1140
00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:51,930
fat and your body responds by trying to

1141
00:44:57,500 --> 00:44:54,510
put it out more sebum and in some cases

1142
00:44:59,620 --> 00:44:57,510
this could lead to acne so when I was

1143
00:45:03,130 --> 00:44:59,630
working in dermatology the kids Hospital

1144
00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:03,140
we found that for some cases sorbolene

1145
00:45:08,269 --> 00:45:06,329
it was 10% glycerine as a cream worked

1146
00:45:10,460 --> 00:45:08,279
really well for washing with but that's

1147
00:45:12,349 --> 00:45:10,470
a whole different story dr. Karl thank

1148
00:45:14,450 --> 00:45:12,359
you for a bit of skin advice said but go

1149
00:45:16,750 --> 00:45:14,460
to a good reputable website and read up

1150
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:16,760
on it that's what I'd advise or CGP

1151
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:18,930
thanks like the hell had funded our up

1152
00:45:48,780 --> 00:45:46,200
welcome message is that you are I can't

1153
00:45:53,460 --> 00:45:48,790
quite smarter than your parents this is

1154
00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:53,470
the tune effect discovered by Flynn and

1155
00:45:58,260 --> 00:45:55,390
the reason that they discovered it is

1156
00:46:03,440 --> 00:45:58,270
because the way that Americans learn

1157
00:46:08,310 --> 00:46:05,940
once every fourteen months in there two

1158
00:46:10,410 --> 00:46:08,320
hundred fifty year history and their

1159
00:46:12,090 --> 00:46:10,420
longest and ending out all of their

1160
00:46:13,890 --> 00:46:12,100
years of peace when they have not been

1161
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:13,900
at war with another country you get a

1162
00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:16,570
grand abode was putting one bus allen

1163
00:46:23,810 --> 00:46:20,830
250 years and so the american support

1164
00:46:27,570 --> 00:46:23,820
since 1932 tens of millions of people

1165
00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:27,580
into the military and given them IQ test

1166
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:29,440
under hard not preconditions none of

1167
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:29,680
this

1168
00:46:35,490 --> 00:46:33,490
toilet we'll have the answer on my

1169
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:35,500
smartphone it's angry people with

1170
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:37,690
ballhead shouting at you to do your IQ

1171
00:46:44,490 --> 00:46:40,450
test and we've seen the are you going up

1172
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:44,500
on IQ points every generation in America

1173
00:46:48,900 --> 00:46:46,720
and in every country around the world

1174
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:48,910
where they bothered to measure your

1175
00:46:55,410 --> 00:46:52,930
queue of people when they're kids and so

1176
00:46:58,860 --> 00:46:55,420
forth and we've had to update the desk

1177
00:47:02,160 --> 00:46:58,870
the wisp for the waste wish where I at

1178
00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:02,170
all know the scale or the wish were into

1179
00:47:05,490 --> 00:47:03,520
scale for children we've haven't

1180
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:05,500
upgraded through the one two three four

1181
00:47:09,210 --> 00:47:07,570
and make it harder the point first

1182
00:47:12,270 --> 00:47:09,220
message of buddhahood is that you are

1183
00:47:13,530 --> 00:47:12,280
the smartest generation ever all know

1184
00:47:15,550 --> 00:47:13,540
things if your kids will be smarter than

1185
00:47:18,130 --> 00:47:15,560
you don't worry about it

1186
00:47:19,900 --> 00:47:18,140
second thing is we are living in the

1187
00:47:22,780 --> 00:47:19,910
most peaceful time ever in the history

1188
00:47:26,410 --> 00:47:22,790
of human race read the book

1189
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:26,420
merchants re effect fulness by hands

1190
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:28,640
Ross Lee and the better angels of our

1191
00:47:34,420 --> 00:47:32,450
nature by Steven Pinker the disadvantage

1192
00:47:36,820 --> 00:47:34,430
with a long period of peace is if you

1193
00:47:40,359 --> 00:47:36,830
end up with more social financial

1194
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:40,369
inequality read capitalism in 21st

1195
00:47:44,740 --> 00:47:42,650
century by Piketty and the Four Horsemen

1196
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:44,750
of the Apocalypse by Shiva there will be

1197
00:47:50,170 --> 00:47:48,050
an exam for you surrounding that we're

1198
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:50,180
speaking 8% so the second thing is that

1199
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:51,650
we are living in the most peaceful time

1200
00:47:54,730 --> 00:47:53,450
ever in history of the human race the

1201
00:47:58,900 --> 00:47:54,740
third thing is it with regard to global

1202
00:48:01,240 --> 00:47:58,910
warming we increase it think back to the

1203
00:48:02,190 --> 00:48:01,250
7th of December 1941 anybody know what

1204
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:02,200
happened on that day

1205
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:06,560
merhaba within nine months all the car

1206
00:48:12,670 --> 00:48:08,210
factories in America a big converter

1207
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:12,680
making weapons of destruction or sorry

1208
00:48:17,170 --> 00:48:14,570
defense sorry there's no war that's only

1209
00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:17,180
defense here how come there's not a

1210
00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:19,040
single department of war in any country

1211
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:20,510
in the world they are all defense this

1212
00:48:27,370 --> 00:48:25,900
within nine months the number of cars

1213
00:48:29,499 --> 00:48:27,380
made for the domestic market was zero

1214
00:48:31,059 --> 00:48:29,509
and eye-popping things out like the b-17

1215
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:31,069
which is this huge plane that could

1216
00:48:34,990 --> 00:48:33,200
carry tens of tons of bombs of the crew

1217
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:35,000
of ten and fly most of the way to put

1218
00:48:39,370 --> 00:48:37,130
and back at 400 kilometres an hour and

1219
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:39,380
now popping them out of there converted

1220
00:48:45,039 --> 00:48:43,609
car factories the huge flames what car

1221
00:48:47,980 --> 00:48:45,049
factory alone typically instead of

1222
00:48:52,029 --> 00:48:47,990
making one plane of month was making one

1223
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:52,039
plane an hour so we could pop these out

1224
00:48:59,499 --> 00:48:55,250
I've been into a city and which the

1225
00:49:01,539 --> 00:48:59,509
Prius has roll off at one minute it's

1226
00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:01,549
not as though two people make the whole

1227
00:49:09,180 --> 00:49:06,710
precinct one minute down there and

1228
00:49:13,210 --> 00:49:09,190
they're putting off so with regard to

1229
00:49:15,009 --> 00:49:13,220
global warming we fix up electricity and

1230
00:49:17,230 --> 00:49:15,019
go totally renewable for the whole world

1231
00:49:20,049 --> 00:49:17,240
something following this story since I

1232
00:49:24,370 --> 00:49:20,059
started back in 1976 reading about them

1233
00:49:27,099 --> 00:49:24,380
so we can what I've read we can go

1234
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:27,109
totally renewable for electricity for

1235
00:49:32,710 --> 00:49:30,410
the whole world in just a year in ten

1236
00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:32,720
years if we decide to do it but the

1237
00:49:39,249 --> 00:49:35,230
Americans will Harbor we can go totally

1238
00:49:41,710 --> 00:49:39,259
renewable for transport in 15 years and

1239
00:49:43,509 --> 00:49:41,720
basically they run a plane waiting

1240
00:49:47,470 --> 00:49:43,519
several hundred times over to Europe

1241
00:49:49,630 --> 00:49:47,480
from Australia you stop the kerosene as

1242
00:49:54,009 --> 00:49:49,640
fuel by the way to receive jet fuel and

1243
00:49:57,249 --> 00:49:54,019
you give it hydrogen but on the hydrogen

1244
00:50:00,670 --> 00:49:57,259
is that it has one sixth of the energy

1245
00:50:03,099 --> 00:50:00,680
density per volume of kerosene four

1246
00:50:05,079 --> 00:50:03,109
times per pass the one sixth of the

1247
00:50:08,019 --> 00:50:05,089
volume so basically you get an Airbus

1248
00:50:10,990 --> 00:50:08,029
380 and fill the entire top or bottom

1249
00:50:12,759 --> 00:50:11,000
deck with hydrogen and you take a

1250
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:12,769
reduced number of passengers and we

1251
00:50:17,390 --> 00:50:14,910
still are able to have

1252
00:50:20,779 --> 00:50:17,400
for around the world and then with

1253
00:50:23,299 --> 00:50:20,789
regard to carbon dioxide and it was

1254
00:50:25,220 --> 00:50:23,309
livestock and agriculture I'm reckoning

1255
00:50:27,410 --> 00:50:25,230
30 40 years because they're live now

1256
00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:27,420
trying find us and then also a lot

1257
00:50:32,660 --> 00:50:29,910
better powerful messages of hope

1258
00:50:34,450 --> 00:50:32,670
now who among you have ever run for

1259
00:50:39,380 --> 00:50:34,460
politics

1260
00:50:42,890 --> 00:50:39,390
love you

1261
00:50:44,180 --> 00:50:42,900
I read for what the unknown to Berkeley

1262
00:50:46,370 --> 00:50:44,190
what party with you is or in particular

1263
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:46,380
that particular right

1264
00:50:56,510 --> 00:50:48,240
I read to the cloud change coalition in

1265
00:50:58,039 --> 00:50:56,520
2007 anybody vote for me I got 44

1266
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:58,049
thousand votes on the line which is a

1267
00:51:01,490 --> 00:50:59,760
record apparently in Australia for votes

1268
00:51:04,359 --> 00:51:01,500
on the line we have two that one or two

1269
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:04,369
hundred on this huge bit of kit paper

1270
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:07,650
but I didn't get enough to get in which

1271
00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:08,970
was seven hundred eighty two thousand

1272
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:10,710
votes because we didn't have enough

1273
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,160
money so for three thousand for $5,000

1274
00:51:20,059 --> 00:51:16,319
all we got was a thirty secret adverse

1275
00:51:28,910 --> 00:51:20,069
man on TV at the unattractive time of

1276
00:51:32,410 --> 00:51:28,920
three o'clock on a Sunday morning the

1277
00:51:35,420 --> 00:51:32,420
fascinating ads for the dominoes er

1278
00:51:38,810 --> 00:51:35,430
romantic frontman and Izzy's amazing

1279
00:51:43,410 --> 00:51:40,950
again fundamentalist government and

1280
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:43,420
Brittany kitchens from Versailles I'm

1281
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:44,530
still paying off the quarter of a

1282
00:51:49,820 --> 00:51:45,760
million dollars if I got a great

1283
00:51:53,730 --> 00:51:49,830
education education goes like this

1284
00:51:56,010 --> 00:51:53,740
how's he done said how I rose out of the

1285
00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:56,020
barrel of a gun which it does in some

1286
00:52:02,160 --> 00:51:58,810
parts of the world but where we are it

1287
00:52:05,730 --> 00:52:02,170
grows out of Parliament on your TV or

1288
00:52:08,130 --> 00:52:05,740
your on TV people to vote for me

1289
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:08,140
fellow relative parliament we're doing

1290
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:10,930
God's work two-twenty God in the on

1291
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:13,410
Stoney in fashion

1292
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:18,490
Leo no or great one so that's where the

1293
00:52:24,060 --> 00:52:20,770
power is and the most important thing

1294
00:52:26,310 --> 00:52:24,070
does the politicians ever did was to set

1295
00:52:28,050 --> 00:52:26,320
up the system so that when you say to a

1296
00:52:31,050 --> 00:52:28,060
naive person whether you're in politics

1297
00:52:33,170 --> 00:52:31,060
they go I couldn't do that they have one

1298
00:52:36,930 --> 00:52:33,180
with that a claim of what by you

1299
00:52:38,910 --> 00:52:36,940
refusing to do anything the bad people

1300
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:38,920
with run for politics will support

1301
00:52:44,190 --> 00:52:41,050
somebody who can if they global warming

1302
00:52:51,410 --> 00:52:44,200
is totally fixable all we have to do is

1303
00:53:00,890 --> 00:52:56,809
I pass you on to a ranch again who has a

1304
00:53:08,059 --> 00:53:05,180
who here is ahead of Brittany's okay

1305
00:53:10,359 --> 00:53:08,069
fair number sir Vietnamese is a former

1306
00:53:12,730 --> 00:53:10,369
naturopath imagine for my naturopath who

1307
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:12,740
while working as a very successful

1308
00:53:19,490 --> 00:53:15,210
natural undiscovered the plea of the

1309
00:53:22,130 --> 00:53:19,500
profession is funded she was horrified

1310
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:22,140
to discover some of the problems with a

1311
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:24,690
profession and she's left the profession

1312
00:53:32,539 --> 00:53:28,319
with a hidden debts of a quarter of a

1313
00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:32,549
million dollars and and started writing

1314
00:53:39,799 --> 00:53:35,250
about naturopathy in a website called

1315
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:39,809
naturopathic Diaries and for her efforts

1316
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:42,450
Britt was sued by an American naturopath

1317
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:48,319
named Christine Colleen Hoover it ube on

1318
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:52,079
that court case so that brought case

1319
00:53:57,019 --> 00:53:54,049
obviously caused significant distress

1320
00:53:58,509 --> 00:53:57,029
the britain basically was an attempt to

1321
00:54:00,620 --> 00:53:58,519
silence her

1322
00:54:02,569 --> 00:54:00,630
australian skeptics even though

1323
00:54:05,359 --> 00:54:02,579
Brittany's an American living in Germany

1324
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:05,369
but she's part of the skeptical movement

1325
00:54:10,849 --> 00:54:07,529
and Australian skeptics organized a

1326
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:10,859
fundraising campaign for her and we

1327
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:14,160
wanted to raise fifty thousand euros

1328
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:16,650
because that's what the estimate was by

1329
00:54:21,769 --> 00:54:19,049
her lawyer the cost would be in the

1330
00:54:24,170 --> 00:54:21,779
worst case scenario and we raised that

1331
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:24,180
amount which is eighty thousand

1332
00:54:28,849 --> 00:54:27,119
Australian dollars in nine days I mean

1333
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:28,859
when I say we raised it's got to point

1334
00:54:34,099 --> 00:54:31,410
out it's the community that I mean we

1335
00:54:36,620 --> 00:54:34,109
did not put money and we simply organize

1336
00:54:40,089 --> 00:54:36,630
the kind of the campaign and within nine

1337
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:40,099
days we met the the goal of 80 thousand

1338
00:54:46,860 --> 00:54:44,490
Australian dollars and donations

1339
00:54:49,170 --> 00:54:46,870
continued and we buy now we have raised

1340
00:54:56,670 --> 00:54:49,180
things about 108 or something something

1341
00:54:59,160 --> 00:54:56,680
like what about $110,000 by now the the

1342
00:55:02,010 --> 00:54:59,170
case for what we said at the time was

1343
00:55:04,860 --> 00:55:02,020
that whatever is left over after brits

1344
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:04,870
with whether she loses or or wins

1345
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:06,960
whatever is left over will be used for

1346
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some good skeptical cause including

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potentially a skeptical Legal Defense

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Fund for such occasions in the future

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so um rich in early May Britain won her

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case but there was still a lingering

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doubt because what happened was that

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coming

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Gruber had until yesterday to appeal and

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she didn't the case is now officially

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over

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and so so yes so we just received the

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early morning in Germany just just

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before I walked up these stairs I

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received them a message from the brick

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that's up that's it the case is over

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00:55:56,910 --> 00:55:55,150
there's still some legal technicalities

1362
00:55:58,410 --> 00:55:56,920
to deal with like richelene Hoover has

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00:56:00,390 --> 00:55:58,420
to pay something northern you to mount

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appears to play something but that's it

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Britta's one officially finally she

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cannot be sued for it for this for this

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supposed information ever again and it's

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a great victory for the skeptical

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community

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[Applause]

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paleo pictures proudly announces that it

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has secured the future of an alkalis

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dinosaur paleo pictures CEO and

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vertebrate paleontologist associate

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00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:40,180
professor Paul Willis is excited about

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this opportunity to protect and study

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00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:46,570
these rare fossils only in Australia did

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get dinosaur fossils that are also solid

1379
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opal the fossils come from lightning

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00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:54,700
ridge in New South Wales and they were

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found by opal miners during their

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diggings we don't actually know what

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00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:01,990
we've got we don't know how much the

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00:57:06,510 --> 00:57:04,000
skeletons there and we don't know what

1385
00:57:08,580 --> 00:57:06,520
kind of dinosaur it is it could be new

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00:57:11,370 --> 00:57:08,590
to science but it's certainly a

1387
00:57:13,620 --> 00:57:11,380
beautiful specimen currently the bones

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00:57:16,260 --> 00:57:13,630
are still encased in white rock and

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00:57:20,610 --> 00:57:16,270
bundled up into a briefcase and two

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00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:20,620
cardboard boxes these are rare pieces of

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Australia's natural heritage and it's

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00:57:29,220 --> 00:57:25,900
our honor to play our part in preserving

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00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:29,230
this wonderful specimen for future

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00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:32,410
generations of Australians paleo

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00:57:36,930 --> 00:57:34,510
pictures will be funding the restoration

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00:57:40,370 --> 00:57:36,940
and study of this dinosaur as part of

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00:57:42,930 --> 00:57:40,380
making a documentary about open fossils

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00:57:45,060 --> 00:57:42,940
paleo pictures will eventually donate

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00:57:47,490 --> 00:57:45,070
the fossils to the Australian opal

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00:57:49,710 --> 00:57:47,500
Center enlightening Rindge the

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Australian opal Center is still under

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00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:53,140
construction and will be opened in 2021

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00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:56,170
with our dinosaur on display alongside

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00:58:01,860 --> 00:57:59,280
many other beautiful of opalized fossils

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00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:01,870
hopefully we can figure out what this

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00:58:06,390 --> 00:58:03,970
dinosaur was all about and paleo

1407
00:58:09,810 --> 00:58:06,400
pictures will actually be making a video

1408
00:58:11,970 --> 00:58:09,820
to show everybody the steps involved in

1409
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:11,980
bringing an ancient dinosaur back to

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00:58:16,510 --> 00:58:15,280
life and the wonders of Australia's opal

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00:58:18,740 --> 00:58:16,520
fossils

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00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:18,750
Palio pictures is currently raising

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00:58:23,300 --> 00:58:20,880
funds to conduct the preparation and

1414
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:23,310
research on this dinosaur and make the

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00:58:30,260 --> 00:58:26,250
documentary to find out more please go

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00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:30,270
to our website visit Paleo pictures calm

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00:58:33,230 --> 00:58:32,640
or just follow the link in this week's

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show nose

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00:58:46,719 --> 00:58:45,009
thank you for listening to the skeptic

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zone and thank you maenad for a huge

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00:58:51,459 --> 00:58:49,160
effort this week don't forget folks to

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1431
00:59:19,269 --> 00:59:16,910
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1432
00:59:21,759 --> 00:59:19,279
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1433
00:59:25,170 --> 00:59:21,769
you know who you are who are chipping in

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1435
00:59:31,870 --> 00:59:27,890
can enjoy hopefully enjoy the skeptic

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00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:31,880
zone now before I sign off completely if

1437
00:59:38,259 --> 00:59:35,049
you go to the skeptic zone Facebook page

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00:59:42,759 --> 00:59:39,920
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1440
00:59:48,279 --> 00:59:42,769
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1441
00:59:50,099 --> 00:59:48,289
picture of me standing on a highway or a

1442
00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:50,109
road outside of Albuquerque New Mexico

1443
00:59:54,609 --> 00:59:52,640
the photograph was taken by my friend

1444
00:59:57,819 --> 00:59:54,619
Ben Radford when I was there recently

1445
00:59:59,920 --> 00:59:57,829
and I said the bed I just wanted some

1446
01:00:02,099 --> 00:59:59,930
photographs of the me on the desert road

1447
01:00:05,019 --> 01:00:02,109
something like that a bit of a souvenir

1448
01:00:10,509 --> 01:00:05,029
and when I looked at the photograph

1449
01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:10,519
closely I noticed above my head unto the

1450
01:00:18,130 --> 01:00:11,119
right

1451
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:18,140
a UFO I'm serious it's strange it's

1452
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:20,450
spooky and you can see the photograph

1453
01:00:24,940 --> 01:00:23,170
for yourself on the skeptics own

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01:00:27,729 --> 01:00:24,950
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1455
01:00:32,589 --> 01:00:27,739
I'd be interested to know your opinions

1456
01:00:34,749 --> 01:00:32,599
but for this week of the wind howling

1457
01:00:37,509 --> 01:00:34,759
outside the window and the cat's howling

1458
01:00:39,489 --> 01:00:37,519
outside the door again hmm

1459
01:00:45,020 --> 01:00:39,499
this is Richard Saunders signing off

1460
01:00:50,430 --> 01:00:47,520
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1461
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:50,440
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1467
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1472
01:01:25,380 --> 01:01:23,080
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1473
01:01:27,180 --> 01:01:25,390
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1474
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:27,190
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1475
01:01:43,490 --> 01:01:41,270
hello people who listen after the music

1476
01:01:46,580 --> 01:01:43,500
the afterthoughts people this week I

1477
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:46,590
have a six-sided die it's a it's a great

1478
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:48,450
one actually I got it from Albuquerque

1479
01:01:56,510 --> 01:01:53,330
New Mexico it's an alien die it so

1480
01:01:56,930 --> 01:01:56,520
instead of a dot for one it has an alien

1481
01:01:58,370 --> 01:01:56,940
head

1482
01:02:02,270 --> 01:01:58,380
you know the classic Close Encounters

1483
01:02:05,930 --> 01:02:02,280
alien the gray with the big eyes for two

1484
01:02:08,210 --> 01:02:05,940
we have two little UFOs the classic

1485
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:08,220
saucer shaped with some with three legs

1486
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:10,890
a little bubble and I guess an alien

1487
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:13,050
inside now what's three three is an

1488
01:02:23,150 --> 01:02:17,510
alien spaceship UFO plus two alien eyes

1489
01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:23,160
what is for alien eyes five where we got

1490
01:02:30,650 --> 01:02:25,710
here for alien eyes again plus one UFO

1491
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:30,660
making five and six yeah six alien eyes

1492
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:32,010
all right

1493
01:02:36,530 --> 01:02:34,650
one two three four five six I'm gonna

1494
01:02:39,830 --> 01:02:36,540
shake the die and I want you to use your

1495
01:02:43,550 --> 01:02:39,840
psychic alien predicting powers psychic

1496
01:02:45,230 --> 01:02:43,560
alien predicting powers and see if you

1497
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:45,240
can come up with numbers you have one in

1498
01:02:52,490 --> 01:02:47,490
six chance of getting the first one here

1499
01:02:55,820 --> 01:02:52,500
we go and the first number up is three

1500
01:03:03,890 --> 01:02:55,830
which means it's one UFO and two alien

1501
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:03,900
is three okay next one to two UFOs

1502
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:07,290
flying along and last wonder how your

1503
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:12,450
predictions are going last one is one a